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StephH
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 Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: Trick list for 2007 |
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Hello, Roger and Sylvie et al.!
We need to confirm the list of tricks for 2007 so that our pilots can prepare for the new season.
Here's the current list:
Group 1
Half Axel
Axel
Turtle
Twist
Coin Toss
Pancake
Insane
Group 2
360
Dead Launch
Fade
Rolling-up
Two-Point Landing
Pinwheel
Cascade
Rolling Susan
Refueling
Double Axel
Stop
Group 3
540
Torpille
Yo-Yo
Spike
Flapjack
Flic-Flac
Lazy Susan
Insane (Right-Left)
Slot Machine
Kombo
Sideway [Slide]
Group 4
Lewis
Backspin
Yo-Yo Takeoff
Wap-Doo-Wap
Jacob's Ladder
Rolling Cascade
Comète
Multilazy
K2000
Group 5
Crazy Copter
Backspin Cascade
Yo-Yo Multilazy
We understand that the following five new tricks will be added (correct?):Cynique
La Dole
Multislot
Yo-Fade
Taz Machine But we need to know what group for each of the new tricks, and we also need descriptions and key elements for each trick.
Also, will any of the existing tricks be removed from the list or reclassified into other groups?
Hope to hear some news on this soon!
Steph
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Sonnenwind
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Here you are Steph!
Bye
Malte
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StephH
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Malte!
Now all we need are definitions and key elements for the five new tricks, and we'll be all set.
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Sonnenwind
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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You are welcome.
| StephH wrote: | Thank you, Malte!
Now all we need are definitions and key elements for the five new tricks, and we'll be all set. |
Exactly, most tricks are clear, but we need definitions that are the same worldwide. ;-)
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Malte
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alain
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randyg
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Send me some wind so I can learn some of those tricks, first.   
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StephH
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the video links, Alain. They are useful.
We can handle the trick descriptions, but we need to know what the key elements are for each trick before we can judge them!
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aerialis
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| randyg wrote: | | Send me some wind so I can learn some of those tricks, first. |
...and while at it, send me some spare time for me to get out flying ;-)
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alain
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| StephH wrote: | Thanks for the video links, Alain. They are useful.
We can handle the trick descriptions, but we need to know what the key elements are for each trick before we can judge them! |
Well, please go ahead with the description, Stephanie and Ron, nobody does it better that you do! 
Lars has already start something here: 
http://www.r-sky.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=568
I'm sure that Sylvie will provide the needed key elements asap, when she see that things get together! 
Just ad some cyniques variations that where no more available online, the simple variation (= cascade-lazy ) is the one that will make it to the Tricks Party list:
cascade-lazy
cascade-multilazy
cascade-lazy-yoyo
cascade-multilazy-yoyo
Pilot is Mathieu Mayet 
More videos for the Taz Machine:
Taz by Roger Sky
Tutorial Taz Machine
And Multislots...
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alain
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Yofade Group 5
The YOFADE is a FADE performed while the kite is fully wraped in a YOYO.
The tricks begin nose down with a dive, the kite is rolled into a 450° YOYO (nose to the pilote first = oposite direction that is used for the WAP-DOO-WAP), and hold in the FADE position for a minimum of 2 seconds, unroll and exit the trick verticaly
Key Elements:
Clean roll-up and un-roll in a straight line, stable fade held for minimum 2 seconds
Videos:
Randy's Yofade Tutorial
YoFade Backspin by Christian (Backspin not needed for the Tricks Party's trick)
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Multislot Group 5
The MULTISLOT is a series of SLOT MACHINES performed back to back and in the same place.
From a horizontal position (nose pointing left or right) the kite is flared and then rotated on its belly for a full 360°, the kite exit the first rotation the nose of the kite pointing in the same direction that it entered, a minimum three rotations are required for the MULTISLOT.
Key Elements:
Horizontal entry and exit in the same direction, minimum three flat rotation, constant speed and movement
Videos:
Randy's Multislot Tutorial
Roger's Multislots
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La Dole Group 5
La Dole is a YOYO + WAP-DOO-WAP. The tricks begin nose down with an overrotated flare (610°, one full rotation more that the WAP-DOO-WAP) the kite is now on it's back nose pointing to the pilote , fully rolled-up in a yoyo. then it is spun 360 or 540° on his back, unrolled and exit the trick verticaly.
Key Elements:
Clean smooth roll-up and unroll, flat rotation and vertical exit.
Videos:
Ladole by Richard 1
Ladole by Richard 2
Ladole by Christian
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StephH
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| alain wrote: | | Well, please go ahead with the description, Stephanie and Ron, nobody does it better that you do! |
OK, here goes — English definitions for the five new tricks, along with the key elements that seem logical. Let us know if anything needs to be corrected!
Cynique (Group 5)
The CYNIQUE is a series of reversing LAZY SUSAN rotations (360° entered from the TURTLE position). The trick may be entered either nose-up (as in a LAZY SUSAN) or horizontally (as in a ROLLING SUSAN). The trick is similar to the MULTILAZY, except that each rotation must reverse direction. The kite must complete at least three full reversing rotations. The trick is exited nose-up.
KEY ELEMENTS: ►Minimum 3 rotations (e.g., right/left/right). ►Constant speed. ►Flat rotation.
Ladole (Group 5)
The LADOLE is a WAP-DOO-WAP performed while the kite is fully wrapped in a YO-YO. The trick must be entered nose-down. As the kite becomes fully rolled in the YO-YO, the rotation is continued into a WAP-DOO-WAP. After a full rotation, the kite is unrolled and exits vertically (nose-down for a 360° rotation, nose-up for a 540° rotation).
KEY ELEMENTS: ►Clean roll-up and unroll. ►Flat rotation. ►Clean, vertical exit.
Multislot (Group 5)
The MULTISLOT is a series of SLOT MACHINES performed back to back. It is initiated exactly like a SLOT MACHINE: from a horizontal position (nose pointing left or right), the kite is flared and then rotated on its belly a full 360°. When the kite has recovered to the exit position (pointing in the same direction as the entry), the next SLOT MACHINE in the sequence is initiated. All rotations are performed in the same direction.
KEY ELEMENTS: ►Minimum 3 rotations. ►Horizontal entry and exit in same direction. ►Flat rotation. ►Constant speed and movement.
Taz Machine (Group 4)
The TAZ MACHINE is essentially a reverse SLOT MACHINE. Like the SLOT MACHINE, it is a single 360° belly-down rotation initiated from a flare (belly down, nose away) that is entered from a horizontal line of flight. From a horizontal position (nose pointing left or right), the kite is flared and then rotated on its belly a full 360°, but it rotates in the opposite direction from the SLOT MACHINE. That is, if the kite is pointing left, the kite will rotate clockwise; if pointing right, it will rotate counterclockwise. Therefore, the kite should exit the rotation in the opposite direction (left or right) of entry.
KEY ELEMENTS: ►Horizontal entry and exit in opposite directions. ►Flat rotation.
Yo-Fade (Group 5)
The YO-FADE is a YO-YO, but with the lines wrapped around the kite in the opposition direction of a normal YO-YO. The trick is initiated with the kite flying straight down; then the nose is tilted up into the FADE position (belly up, nose toward the pilot), but the rotation continues so that the kite continues to rotate a full 360° beyond the FADE position. The kite is now in a FADE again, but the lines are wrapped once around the kite. The kite exits the trick by rotating in the reverse direction to unwrap the lines, and flying straight downward.
KEY ELEMENTS: ►Clean roll-up and unroll. ►Straight line. ►Fade held for minimum 2 seconds.
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alain
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have print the descriptions to read them carefully, but it look like you did a perfect work together again!
Thanks Ron and Stephanie! |
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StephH
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| alain wrote: | | I have print the descriptions to read them carefully, but it look like you did a perfect work together again! |
Thanks, Alain, for taking on the job of reviewing these definitions. We're grateful for your multilingual skills! Let us know when you're done with your review.
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alain
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| StephH wrote: |
Yo-Fade (Group 5)
The YO-FADE is a YO-YO, but with the lines wrapped around the kite in the opposition direction of a normal YO-YO. The trick is initiated with the kite flying straight down; then the nose is tilted up into the FADE position (belly up, nose toward the pilot), but the rotation continues so that the kite continues to rotate a full 360° beyond the FADE position. The kite is now in a FADE again, but the lines are wrapped once around the kite. The kite exits the trick by rotating in the reverse direction to unwrap the lines, and flying straight downward.
KEY ELEMENTS: ►Clean roll-up and unroll. ►Straight line. ►Fade held for minimum 2 seconds. |
I have publish your description on our German Tricks Party forum to have a feedback, from pilots and other juges, the only thing that came out after 2 days online, is that:
The exit of the YO-FADE should be change to "vertical"
If the trick is performed close to the ground,and it will be almost always the case, this will allow the pilot to do an half backspin, or more, to exit the trick nose up!
The phrase that should be change for that is in italic!
Thanks to Olly to point me to that limitation of the definition.
If Roger or/and Sylvie could jump to this thread to have a look at the key elements, i think that we are done.
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Sonnenwind
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Cynique:
1)Are Stops between each lazy allowed or not? I’d prefer no stopping… ;-)
2)I am not allowed to trick as follows: three time clockwise, three times counter-clockwise and three times clockwise?
Ladole
1) „After a full rotation“? Depnds on the pilots choice, either one or one and a half rotations. ;-)
2) “Rotation”; is it allowed to say Lazy Susan?
Multislot:
1) Rotation 360 degrees only? I thought the nose should point from the pilot away before initiating the flat spin rotation, causing the kite to spin 450 degrees.
Taz:
1) Clockwise, counter~? Looking from above or how?
Personly, I find it very confusing, to describe the Taz with all the opposite stuff compaed to the Slot. If I would not know the Taz, I may still not know what to fly.
YoFade
1) “Tilted into the Fade Position”? I would say, tilted beyond the Fade position, it is a fluent and unstopped motion! Into a wrapped Fade, indeed! May be it is my bad English.
2) horizontal exit allowed?
Thank you for providing us with the definitions.
I don't want to critizise your effort. It just came to my mind while translating into german! :-)
Bye
Malte
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